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== Merge Volatiles Pages ==
 
--[[User:Bloby|Bloby]]: Currently there are two pages referring to the same gas: [[Hydrogen]] and [[Volatiles]].  They should probably be merged.  Note that these are distinct from the item [[Ice_(Volatiles)]].  The merged page should probably be "Volatiles", because although the gas is referred to as H<sub>2</sub> in game, it is never called hydrogen, and its reaction with oxygen is clearly not that of hydrogen.  Because of the name, I didn't realize the reaction didn't produce water vapor until I tested it.  I suspect the inconsistency here is that the developers changed their mind about volatiles at some point and haven't fully switched over yet.
 
 
--[[User:Ipottinger|Ipottinger]] ([[User talk:Ipottinger|talk]]) 06:24, 22 October 2019 (CDT) I agree that the content should be merged into a single page. I would suggest that both the Hydrogen and Volatiles links on the Main Page remain with the Hydrogen page converted to a page-redirect to the merged Volatiles page. ("<nowiki>#REDIRECT [[Volatiles]]</nowiki>" as page's sole content) This is because, as you noted, the game in its current "early access" state is itself confused about the naming. New players may come looking for info on Hydrogen, not realizing that it and Volatiles are one-in-the-same. As you also noted, labelling Volatiles as H<sub>2</sub> is equally misleading. I'm hoping that, sometime in the future, Hydrogen proper is (re?)introduced and Volatiles becomes Methane CH<sub>4</sub> or some other hydrocarbon.
 
 
: I believe this has some relation to the way the game separates items and gasses. Originally, the name of the gas was Hydrogen, but the name of the ice/ore was Volatiles. Now there is no mention of Hydrogen in the game, it's only Volatiles (even though it is labeled H<sub>2</sub> by some parts of the game). I will go ahead and merge the pages. --[[User:Sunspots|Sunspots]] ([[User talk:Sunspots|talk]]) 17:02, 26 October 2019 (CDT)
 
 
 
== Kit and Item Nomenclature ==
 
== Kit and Item Nomenclature ==
  
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In an earlier attempt to alleviate the problem of inconsistently named pages, I reorganized the [[Main Page]] to harmonize its links with the in-game names of items, then created page-redirects to bounce each link to the appropriate (often incorrectly named) content page. This is only a band-aid over an open wound. To heal, content must be moved from their incorrectly named pages to replace the correctly named redirect pages.
 
In an earlier attempt to alleviate the problem of inconsistently named pages, I reorganized the [[Main Page]] to harmonize its links with the in-game names of items, then created page-redirects to bounce each link to the appropriate (often incorrectly named) content page. This is only a band-aid over an open wound. To heal, content must be moved from their incorrectly named pages to replace the correctly named redirect pages.
  
The schema I used for the Main Page links is "«ItemName»" for items not created from kits. and "Kit («KitName») «ItemName»" for those that are, with the sole exception of "«Kit () «ItemName»" used when kit and variant names were similar enough to seem redundant to include both. Similarly, any new pages I created used the same naming schema minus the "«Kit () «ItemName»" contraction. I also adopted the "Guide («ItemName»)" or "Guide («SubjectName»)" for community-authored (opposed to user-authored) guides. (See [[Guide (Airlock)]] and [[Guide (Farming)]])
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The schema I used for the Main Page links is "«ItemName»" for items not created from kits. and "Kit («KitName») «ItemName»" for those that are, with the sole exception of "«Kit () «ItemName»" used when kit and variant names were similar enough to seem redundant to include both. Similarly, any new pages I created used the same naming schema minus the "«Kit () «ItemName»" contraction. (See "[[Kit (Atmospherics) Air Conditioner]]") I also adopted the "Guide («ItemName»)" or "Guide («SubjectName»)" for community-authored (opposed to user-authored) guides. (See [[Guide (Airlock)]] and [[Guide (Farming)]])
  
 
I devised the above naming schema for the Main Page links with two goals in mind:
 
I devised the above naming schema for the Main Page links with two goals in mind:
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For the Main Page reorganization, I made an assumption that I am now concerned is incorrect, that assumption being it might be possible for two different kits to produce two different variants that share the same name.  
 
For the Main Page reorganization, I made an assumption that I am now concerned is incorrect, that assumption being it might be possible for two different kits to produce two different variants that share the same name.  
* If the '''assumption is true''', then keeping future updates or mod's in mind, it is necessary to prevent page-name collisions by prepending the kit's name. (Example: the current pipe-based "[[Kit (Gas Mixer) Gas Mixer]]" vs. a future mod-provided "Kit (Advance Atmospherics) Gas Mixer", an Electrolyzer/Filtration sized device that will take several input gases and mix them to order consistently regardless of input temperatures or pressures)  
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* If the '''assumption is true''', then keeping future updates or mod's in mind, it is necessary to prevent page-name collisions by prepending the kit's name. (Example: the current pipe-based "[[Kit (Gas Mixer) Gas Mixer]]" vs. a future mod-provided "Kit (Advance Atmospherics) Gas Mixer", a Electrolyzer/Filtration sized device that will take several input gases and mix them to order consistently regardless of input temperatures or pressures)  
 
* If the '''assumption is false''', then every item must have a unique name and therefore will reside on a matching uniquely named wiki page, no kit-name prepending required.
 
* If the '''assumption is false''', then every item must have a unique name and therefore will reside on a matching uniquely named wiki page, no kit-name prepending required.
  
 
It seems to me now that the game has been constructed such that every item must have a unique name. I will try to confirm this with someone in authority on Stationeers' Discord. If confirmed, I will accept responsibility for the mistake and make the necessary corrections to the Main Page and the redirects it depends upon. Thus, pages like "[[Kit (Atmospherics) Air Conditioner]]" will become simply "[[Air Conditioner]]".
 
It seems to me now that the game has been constructed such that every item must have a unique name. I will try to confirm this with someone in authority on Stationeers' Discord. If confirmed, I will accept responsibility for the mistake and make the necessary corrections to the Main Page and the redirects it depends upon. Thus, pages like "[[Kit (Atmospherics) Air Conditioner]]" will become simply "[[Air Conditioner]]".
 
--[[User:Bloby|Bloby]]:  This all seems reasonable.  From my experience digging through the game files, I think that items need to have unique internal names, e.g. "StructureCompositeCladdingAngledCornerLong".  However, these are mapped to names the user sees through the localization system.  So the previous cladding is "Composite Cladding (Long Angled Corner)" in English, and "Revêtement Composite (Long coin incliné)" in French.  So it might be possible that the user sees two items mapped to the same name.  It seems like the developer is avoiding this, though.
 
  
 
== Kit Pages ==
 
== Kit Pages ==
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#* Kits that produce multiple variants that are only trivially different from one another do '''not''' require individual pages for those varients. A simple table of characteristics should be enough to guide a player to the appropriate variant.
 
#* Kits that produce multiple variants that are only trivially different from one another do '''not''' require individual pages for those varients. A simple table of characteristics should be enough to guide a player to the appropriate variant.
 
#* I agree that [[Kit (Lights)]] is a difficult one. Though [[Kit (Lights) Wall Light|Wall Light]], [[Kit (Lights) Wall Light (Long)|Wall Light (Long)]], [[Kit (Lights) Wall Light (Long Angled)|Wall Light (Long Angled)]] and [[Kit (Lights) Wall Light (Long Wide)|Wall Light (Long Wide)]] are all essentially the same, albeit in size and shape, they are substantially distinct in form and function from [[Kit (Lights) Diode Slide|Diode Slide]] and [[Kit (Lights) Wall Light (Battery)|Wall Light (Battery)]]. Even [[Kit (Lights) LED|LED]] colorization is different enough from other Lights variant to cause confusion for a new player. Therefore, I think it would be wise to give Lights variants three separate pages. One for the common lights, another for the battery variant, and a third for LED.
 
#* I agree that [[Kit (Lights)]] is a difficult one. Though [[Kit (Lights) Wall Light|Wall Light]], [[Kit (Lights) Wall Light (Long)|Wall Light (Long)]], [[Kit (Lights) Wall Light (Long Angled)|Wall Light (Long Angled)]] and [[Kit (Lights) Wall Light (Long Wide)|Wall Light (Long Wide)]] are all essentially the same, albeit in size and shape, they are substantially distinct in form and function from [[Kit (Lights) Diode Slide|Diode Slide]] and [[Kit (Lights) Wall Light (Battery)|Wall Light (Battery)]]. Even [[Kit (Lights) LED|LED]] colorization is different enough from other Lights variant to cause confusion for a new player. Therefore, I think it would be wise to give Lights variants three separate pages. One for the common lights, another for the battery variant, and a third for LED.
 
--[[User:Bloby|Bloby]]:  Okay excellent, then that's taken care of.
 
 
:I strongly disagree with these excessively long names! In every case where an individual item or structure is warranted it's own article, the article name should be identical to the English translation of the name. In the case of multiple things with the same name, any clarification should be following the name, not in some obscure naming scheme. I don't care so much about names of guides. We don't need atomic articles for every single item or structure in the game. Note that there are two major types of "things" in the game - items and structures (also reagents, gasses, dynamic objects, etc). An item that is a kit is generally used to place a structure. I don't like the idea of having an article for the kit item alone, and forcing the user to jump through hoops to find the actual information about the structure.
 
:p.s. please follow general wiki convention of signing the end of your message --[[User:Sunspots|Sunspots]] ([[User talk:Sunspots|talk]]) 16:54, 26 October 2019 (CDT)
 
  
 
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